Should Fuji release Premium Manual prime lenses?
Hello to all the Fuji X Passion readers,
FXP has always been in a special place in my heart. Starting as a reader to a contributor to the FXP community is something I have never dreamed of. Due to personal matters since the beginning of the year, I have not been contributing at all. So today, I am contributing something that may not be possible, but what if…
Every now and then, even though Fuji has opened up its X-mount protocol, there are manufacturers still releasing manual lenses. Hence, my friends and I always take the opportunity to discuss this possibility and share our thoughts on whether Fuji should ever release manual lenses. It is still a good topic to discuss over the coffee session and let the imagination go wild but within practical means.
I do not know when the first-ever manual lens made for the Fuji X-mount was released, but when I noticed it, it was the Zhongyi Mitakon Speedmaster 35mm f0.95 II in 2016. It was an expensive manual lens back then, and it is still an expensive one compared to other manual lenses today.
From there onwards, I started to learn about another brand from China, 7Artisans, releasing some affordable manual lenses for X-mount. This was also when I bought my first ever fisheye manual lens.
I think the traction for manual lenses was good because I got to witness more and more new brands coming up with more manual lenses in the next few years. Brands like Rokinon, Meike, TTArtisan, Laowa, etc. The X-mount manual lens market also slowly evolved along the way, splitting into basically 2 different categories: premium ultrafast/fast and compact/affordable. The price is typically well associated with the categories to which the lens belongs.
In the latest release from Voigtlander, the Nokton 35mm f0.9 is nothing but the finest masterpiece from the manufacturer. Of course, it is slapped with a high price tag. A price that is even more expensive than Fujifilm’s very best XF50mm f1 and also the Kipon Ibelux 40mm f0.85.
RIGHT: Fuji X-T5 . Brightin Star 35mmF0.95 @35mm . F/0.95. 1/22000″ . ISO 125 . Nostalgic Negative
The release of this lens makes me wonder if it is ever possible for Fuji to release manual lenses for the Fuji Fanboys & Fangirls.
To answer whether there is any possibility of launching manual lenses in this day and age. Allow me to share my point of view.
RIGHT: Fuji X-T5 . Brightin Star 35mmF0.95 @35mm . F/0.95. 1/125″ . ISO 400 . Nostalgic Negative
First, with the release of the X-mount specifications in 2020, manufacturers can access the Fuji X-mount autofocus system. Manufacturers can invest more time and money in their R&D with the autofocus lenses for the X-mount bodies. We actually also witness the rise of manufacturers announcing or releasing their very own autofocus lenses for the X-mount. For example: Sigma, Tamron, Sirui and TTArtisan. So is there still demand for manual lenses in the coming years? (I am aware of the Zeiss Touit series of autofocus lenses. But it’s a special treatment from Fuji for sharing the protocol with Zeiss.)
RIGHT: Fuji X-T5 . Meike 35mmF0.95 @35mm . F/0.95 . 1/420″ . ISO 125 . Nostalgic Negative
I think yes. First of all, it comes with cheaper production cost to produce the lens because it spends less hardware material to produce and also eliminates the need to have the engineers improve on the performance of the lens further since the “performance” relies on photographers’ eye power and the speed and accuracy of the fingers. Some examples of hardware material such as the need to include the electronic contact for information exchange between the lens and camera body, lens hood*, autofocus motor (i.e. Linear motor and Stepper motor), and USB port for potential firmware upgrade for better performance.
RIGHT: Fuji X-E4 . TTArtisan 50mmF1.4 Tilt @50mm . F/2.8 . 1/4000″ . ISO 160 . Classic Negative
(*Yes, lens hood. I have discussed this with many manufacturers, and they mentioned that although it is insignificant to the whole of the production cost, manufacturers still want to remove it. But recent new manual lenses released by TTArtisan and Meike, do come with a lens hood. But both lenses are ultra-wide focal lengths, so it might make sense to provide the lens hood for protection from anything.)
Secondly, I believe it also saves a lot of time for the engineers to work on one manual lens and then proceed to the other manual lens (same thing for the assembly line workers), which makes them more effective for the manufacturers.
Lastly, while it is subjective to respective manufacturers, the “cost-saving” gives the photographers a cheaper alternative to access the focal length and aperture value that he/she needs to fulfill the shooting desire. We do have an exceptional brand that does it differently and they do have a market for this. For example, the Voigtlander Nokton series.
I think these 3 reasons should hold for quite a while.
Back to the main point of this post, should Fuji release premium manual prime lenses?
RIGHT: Fuji X-S10 . TTArtisan 17mmF1.4 @17mm . F/2 . 0.9″ . ISO 160 . Classic Negative
If Fuji wishes to set a new benchmark in the world of manual lenses, first, they can make a trinity of lenses with typical focal lengths of 23mm, 35mm, and 56mm. These focal lengths may be flooded in the market with choices but these focal lengths for sure still are the favorite among photographers.
Secondly, to justify the “premium” tag, the aperture value should be as large as either f0.9 or f0.95. Of course, together with other things like aperture rings and weather resistance are a must-have (it will be even better if the lenses come with square lens hoods).
RIGHT: Fuji X-T5 . Rokinon 35mmF1.2 @35mm . F/1.2 . 1/8000″ . ISO 125 . Nostalgic Negative
Today, most manual lenses with such large aperture values suffer some level of vignetting and chromatic aberration. Also, the image quality has some sort of characteristic results like dreamy and soft. I know some photographers love this result, but unfortunately, I do not belong to this group. I prefer sharper, contrasty, and usable results. Fujifilm improved their new generation of lenses with very usable results with wide open and I believe Fujifilm can do this if they ever release their own manual prime lenses.
Lastly, probably design the lenses as compact as possible, like pancake lenses. But here is the thing, the grip of the aperture ring and the heavy reliance on the focus ring have to be comfortable and spaced well apart. Seems like I am pretty demanding on this and I can’t deny that. I have been reviewing quite a few manual lenses, and the experience with the aperture and focus rings is very important for me.
RIGHT: Fuji X-T5 . Meike 35mmF0.95 @35mm . F/0.95 . 1/250″ . ISO 125 . Nostalgic Negative
While I am not familiar with Fujifilm and their marketing strategies, this is something I can think of if Fujifilm does not want to streamline these lenses:
Making these lenses limited edition. Fujifilm every now and then does have some special or limited edition product up for the Fanboys and Fangirls to grab, for example: the X100V Disney edition.
Or simply pair them up with the same concept, like X-Pro 2 with XF23mm f2 graphite edition.
Enough of sharing my point of view. I thank everyone who has clicked this post and read it till the end of it just to read another fanboy’s wishlist. But who knows someday this might ever come true.
Thank you for reading.
Alwin is a 37 years old engineer, husband and Fujifilm fanboy from Singapore. His first encounter with Fujifilm was the launch of the X10 in 2012. It was love at first sight. It was a joyful compact camera and it also introduced film simulations to him. But what brought him deep into Fujifilm was the X-T2 and the love grows further. He loves to experience and discover many genres.
Albert Smith
January 3, 2024 @ 1:56 pm
For me, I don’t need a large range of focal lengths in manual focus, but I wish for at least one lens in the classic focal lengths for street type shooting. For Fujifilm, that would be an 18mm or 23mm.
I shot with Leica M cameras for decades and the 35mm lens on that body with accurate DOF scales and a hard stop at infinity made street/grab shots as fast as any autofocus within that genre’ of photography. A zone-focused lens is already focused and no need to make sure some focus point is on the right subject.
I tried several TT Artisans lenses, but the lenses didn’t stop at true infinity so I had little confidence in the DOF scales. I mentally wrestled for a couple of months on buying a Voightlander 27mm f/2, which has a Leica style focus tab and an accurate infinity (according to most reviews), but it is $200 more that my Fujifilm XF 27mm, which is hard to justify.
If Fujifilm made a manual focus lens with all the classic markings in a wide to semi-wide focal length, I’d be the first in line to buy it.
Alwin
January 3, 2024 @ 2:07 pm
Hi Albert,
Happy New Year to you!
Thank you for your time and sharing your personal opinion and view. I truely agree that Voightlander lenses are great but too hard to justify for most photographers. I also looking at the Voightlander 27mm for a while but I did not get it in the end.
zsa63
January 4, 2024 @ 7:40 pm
I don’t really see the point of Fuji manual lenses. They would certainly be more expensive than the many of them on the market, certainly no better than the AF versions, so it would be a pointless move.
Ike
January 4, 2024 @ 9:25 pm
I would say no, waste of time due to too many good options, EXCEPT, there needs to be more manual lenses that focus in the right direction, like fuji and nikon, and *not* like leica. Most manual lenses i will miss a lot because my brain will want to turn the wrong way to focus. It just makes sense to follow the way screws and general turning functions work, turning to the right pushes forward, like a screw going forward except it’s the focal plane.
This is the only reason why i want that to be a reality.
Khürt Williams
January 5, 2024 @ 9:34 pm
I think it’s fun to speculate on what a large for-profit company should do. Unanswered is the “why” they should release Premium Manual prime lenses. Is there a high customer demand for Premium Manual Prime lenses? Will there be a significant return on the cost of developing premium Manual prime lenses?
Tom
January 6, 2024 @ 12:11 am
I’ve thought about this a lot lately (for some reason) and while I’m insanely happy with my Fuji lenses in both the APS-C and medium format size, some of the comments raise legitimate concerns regarding already existing lenses.
So… what if they did manual lenses, but in full frame format? And while we’re at it, release a premium build, modern featured full frame “Fuji X1” and go toe to toe to toe with Leica? Reimagine the genre in that space.
Then Fuji would have the based covered from APS-C to full frame, to medium format. And I know, I know, all the arguments about “cannibalizing sales” from this format or that format, but from a marketing perspective, full frame is a white space for Fuji. And I think they can go toe to toe with Leica. And win.
But really, this is all for fun over coffee, as the article mentions.
Johan Otterdahl Edfeldt
January 6, 2024 @ 11:55 am
Yes yes yes. I’d love a smooth, small, manual 35mm with great contrast and vintage rendering for my b&w photography. I’m really happy with my 7artisans 35mm1.2 mark2 but the corner are not good so I shoot it at 1:1 squarecropwhich works great and gives it a medium format feel at 1.2. I was dissapointed with the Voigtländer 35mm 1.2. The Mitakon 35mm is nice but a bit too big.
Charles
January 25, 2024 @ 9:47 pm
I personally am I big fan of prime lenses. Lightweight, cheap and generally sharper. I believe the restrictions on not being able to zoom can force more creativity too.
Marlon
February 4, 2024 @ 3:07 am
I purchased the Voigtlander 35mm f0.9 for this very reason and I’m happy I made the decision.
The contrast, rendering, build quality and ability to handle harsh flares makes this lens a true gem.
The focus barrel is also buttery smooth and I love that the lens has a clicked aperture.
I’d pay for a more premium manual lens if Fujifilm ever decided to make one.
I think if they ever chose to remake the original 35/1.4 and made it a manual lens, that could be quite interesting!
stanislaw witold zolczynski
March 2, 2024 @ 2:40 pm
Horses for courses. As old Leica shooter I find AF much faster to nail focus but if shooting in hurry using zone focusing and f:8 such a gems Like Laowa 9/2,8, 10/4 are good choice. Another style are superfast lenses for slow nighttime photos or a portraits. There is place for both. As to Fuji manual primes, well to me only sence would make a film orientated ones with long focus throw, not breathing, no focus shift and that doesnt come cheap.